hi guys.
i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.
i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.
In reality I want to shout from the roof tops TTATT but in public I cannot. Having JW.net is gratifying to me on so many levels. I am very thankful to Simon for this forum.
Being one of Jehovah's Witnesses, is, crazy making. Once you wake up, it truly doesn't make any sense. It is like a horrible nightmare. But this "horrible nightware", has been our lives. If we have loved ones still in, the nightmare continues for them and you.
LoisLane
has anyone heard any info about the backpack in the us?
there's a topic with about 10 pages about it over in the spanish forum.
http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?22472-la-mochila.
Aussie Oz>>>>>Oh...oh...and your Mom loved you and thought she was doing the very best for her children. Is she still alive? Precious.
Sorry OwnAccord. I do not mean to disrespect your thread.
Just Lois
has anyone heard any info about the backpack in the us?
there's a topic with about 10 pages about it over in the spanish forum.
http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?22472-la-mochila.
OmnAccord>>>>>First, let me say welcome, and kisses on each cheek and an American hearty hand shake, my Friend.
Did I read correctly you have 90 anos, (9 decades)? You are 90 years old or young, or how ever you feel today? Si? Right?
I like your thinking. I like your view on the Governing Body "CG". I like your writing and I think you are funny! "Does the Governing Body think we are fools, poor idiots , retarded, stupid idiots or foolish abnormals!?!" hahahahaha With a big resounding...YES! What a Sweetheart for you to "not mention the subnormal. They have your respect and appreciation". What a beautiful Brother/Sister you are.
Please keep writing. In your 9 decades you have seen many things, come and go. New light, old light, what was right, is now wrong. If you professed to be of the anointed, what do you or anyone you know this has happened to, now think?
Your critical thinking skills are highly valued.
What do you think of your Religion, for the future? They used the scare tactic of armageddon for almost 100 years. They gathered a lot of scaredy cats into their nets, with their abuse, that they could fleece at leisure, while having control of their captive's lives.
What adult man or woman wants to live under a dictatorship? Maybe you can tell us a little bit about that.
Wars are fought for Freedom. The Governing body controls us as though we are brainless.
OwnAccord>>>>>Are you actively helping ones in Spain to wake up and leave this parasite religion?
Are you still in? Fading? DFed or DA and trying to get reinstated? A pub, pio, Elder, CO, DO, Bethelite, Missionary?
How are you? Have you been married? Children? Grandchildren?
Please do not tell me you are one of those innocent unfortunate children that listened to The Watch Tower Society when they released The Childrens book in 1941 and made you promise or at least guilt you into thinking that you should never marry? That is too heart-breaking.
Please start a new thread and introduce yourself. Yes, we all know your view on the 8 Pope-ettes (My term. I think that is so funny) Governing Body.
As I read your post I think how much more beautiful it sounds coming off of your lips in Espanol. Yo idioto! yo stupido! (Sorry. Did I just call myself an idiot and a stupid?) lol
Welcome OwnAccord and 3 gold stars
Just Lois Enjoying Paradise Now in the North Pacific
i believe that one of the next big doctrine changes will be that the non annointed can be on the gb (and eventually the whole gb will be non annointed).. now that they have slipped through that they are all domestics (the "idea" that jeffery jackson loves so) the current gb are also "domestics" when not meeting as the gb, just as the rest of the rank and file and other annointed are.. not hard to see how they can now bring in any "domestic'' annointed or not to be on the gb.
once one is in, they can bring in more as they swap over.. stand by for more new light from the celestial chariot.... they would not have made so much of the whole ''domestic'' thing just because jackson had the happies for it, there will be a reason behind the manourver i am sure.
i can't see it as essential to the change of fds from the remnant to the 8. that they could have just stated and it would have been accepted without question.
Good Evening to you Aussie Oz>>>>>In my humble opinion, crazy's can do whatever they want. Crazy's can change their doctrines, whenever they want. Crazy's can make you think you are crazy, because they are crazy and it makes you crazy to be with them. I know of 8 men. They are Pope=ettes. They are crazy.
And a good morning to Just Lois in The North Pacific and 3 gold stars
richard e. kelly has just contributed another moving life story to jwsurvey.. here is the link.... http://jwsurvey.org/domestic-abuse-2/danmera-dinglebum-why-did-it-take-so-long.
i'm sure many of you will be familiar with danmera's brilliant and thought-provoking youtube videos.. for those who don't already know her story, this article should fill you in on the struggle she went through as a young woman thanks to her jw upbringing.. the fact that she has emerged through all of that, and blossomed into such a valuable member of our community, is truly inspiring.. .
cedars.
Danmera>>>>> What a great Humanitarian! I am really happy to meet you!
Thank you for ALL your hard work!
Just for you and 3 gold stars
Just Lois
i think with every year their are more and more newbies that identify with this site , would you like to say " hi ", if you have joined in the last 12 months ?.
does anybody have a graph of the numbers of newbies who have joined in say the last 5 years ?.
i think that would be interesting.
It's a hi for me since August! and 3 gold stars
Just Lois
wouldn't it be cool if the pope did an expose thing about the catholic church and all the heirarchies/inside secrets, etc., like ray franz did when he exposed the inner workings at the highest level of the jw religion?
!.
The Pope wants to retire. Not be dead! lol
Just Lois
thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
Gma-Tired2>>>>>How awful, for all concerned. (((((((Hugs)))))))
Just Lois
i often looked around the hall and assemblies and wondered how many were like me, just going through the motions.
even when i wasnt awake i knew that if armagedon came i would not meet the standard for survival.
would it be fair to say that only half of all witnesses really feel up to standard?.
Awakening>>>>>Good question. Watchtower = 7 1/2 million vs honestly = 3 4/4 million Jw's .
ThereDeemer >>>>>Watchtower = 0 vs. Jesus is forgiveness and love. His is the Way = The World
Londo111>>>>>WT teach...Pioneer or we say you die! Less than 100,000
Great Crowd...How many actually live up to the Society's standands = 0 Impossible standards.
Just Lois Still awake, and who will never drink 2 coffees plus a 2 tea bag green tea before bedtime, ever again.
the obvious answer to that is: yes!
jwn has a number of former elders who awakened to ttatt while they held their position, and a handful of current elders who help provide needed intel.. .
later, i learned he and his wife had faded, and both of his grown sons know ttatt as well.. .
Hoser>>>Flipper>>>Ohhhhhhh! You guys. Naughty. Naughty.
You guys are on a touchy, touchy subject of mine. Women Who Wear The Pants In The Cong, excuse me, I mean in the home, I mean, those women who think if their husband is an Elder, the automatic deduction in their head, is hey, I'm the boss at home, so now that hubby is appointed I'm a boss at the Hall too. I'm an el - durr - rette - ette , (in a sing song voice). Sicko.
And I agree with you. If a strong willed woman wears the pants at home, there is no way Jose (it does rhyme, Jose is pronounced Ho- zay for those not speaking the native tongue of California lol), she wants to give up any so called power. Those women, (sorry Flipper no intent on your sister, I am sure she is wonderful, and the one, exception) I can't stand those kind of women. They stink. (Again Flipper. Not meaning to disrespect your sister. I am sure she smells...lovely. Yes, lovely. OK Flip? We fine here? Next time I'm in the ocean, I don't want you come huntin ' me down now. OK?) lol
So, if an Elder wakes up to TTATT, and the "Elderette" wife does too, but doesn't want to lose her "position" = No happy wife = No happy life, it is probably desirous of him to stay in.
If an Elder wakes up, and his wife never conceived of herself as being an "Elderette", their leaving/fading, would be so much easier.
Elders out there. Wake up - wake up!
Just Lois Still Can't Sleep
